Veness Family History

Slight correct to Delia & Richards children. They had five Arabella Maria born 1830 lived in Worcestershire, Jane 1831 also Worcestershire. Thomas 1833 lived Swindon, Alfred 1836 lived Eastbourne, Louisa 1838 moved around as didn't marry till late. Richard Died 1839 yrs. Both Delia & Edward died Swindon. There three children Edward lived in Staffordshire and both Mary & Elizabeth lived in Swindon.

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Richard, Please contact me as I unable to contact your email address in regards Northbrook Farm, Manilla, NSW, Australia. Our ancestor Daniel Edward Veness built it. Here my email address robinherdman@btinternet.com

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In reply to Samuel Venice (Veness) of Worcester, a Dyer. He married to Mary Spadling in 1814 and had 5 issues. Sam died in 1849 aged 65 yrs, which led to his birth in c1784, unfortunately no record of his baptism can be found, no details from Brightling and Battle. Amusing if the error of age, Sam died in 1849 perhap aged 55 yrs, this would mean he was born in 1794 for which i have got a record - 5th Oct 1794 at Brightling the son of Sam & Sarah nee Stonestreet. Sam senior was baptised 14 Dec 1753 the son of Thomas & Mary nee Grant. he married 10 Jan 1781 at Battle and had 10 children, there was possibly two sons of the above - John (1792) & Henry (1805-82) sentenced to be transported to Australia on ship "Prince Orange" (excecuted, but imprisoned being guilty in highway robbing) in 1821, both from Battle, Sussex.

Sam Venes died in Marylebone, London aged 81 yrs on 15 May 1833, his wife Sarah died 26 Feb 1836 aged 72 yrs.

In regards to the whereabout of Richard Veness, he is not related to sam Veness, obviously both branches were connected to Isaac Venice (1706-660. Richard was born 1806 in Brightling the son of Thomas & Maria, unfortunately no baptism records, he married Delia Spray 4 Oct 1829 at Chichester & had 4 issues. Richard died in 25 Fen 1838 aged 32 yrs at Hartlebury, worcestershire. Later delia remarried 1844 to edward Millman at Kidderminster and resided in Worcestershire, only on of her son Alfred moved to eastbourne & Thomas's settled in swindon, 3 of his sons emigrated to USA. I hope this is clear in detail.

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Vanessa - I do have your grandfather in my tree - I just couldn't find him. If you want to get in touch on carolinecraven911@hotmail.com we can share info.
Regards, Caroline

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Hello Caroline,

I have collected Veness genealogy. The first Veness came to Brightling in c1570's from Normandy, France - Nichol Venie. In the 16th and 17th century there were various VENIS families across Sussex, but my ancestor appears to have originated as VENIE. Nichol VENIE, Frenchman, later called VENIS, who lived in Brightling in the late of 16th century. I am descendant from Nichol down to Australia Veness. I have lots information of the Veness and variant in East Sussex from 16th to 20th century. I would love to have exchange and please contact me for some details: robinherdman@btinternet.com

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Hello Vanessa,
Your Grandfather Charles william Veness of Essex which I can trace his forebear Charles Veness (b 21 Feb 1797) the son of Thomas Veness & Grace Waghorn of Deptford, London, incidently John the brother of Charles was born 3 Dec 1798, this was my Great Great Great Grandfather. Daniel Edward Veness the 7th child of John (b1798) & mary Ann nee Evans, he emigrated to Australia in 1855 & settled Manillia near Tamworth, NSW. Please contact me more for more details - robinherdman@btinternet.com

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Vanessa - I have quite a lot of info on George but I can't find Charles so would be interested in the connection. If you drop me a line at carolinecraven911@hotmail.com I'll try and update you on what I have.
Regards, Caroline

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Hallo Richard, I have only found out this week that my grandfather's uncle George Thomas Veness came to Austalia and I believe may be the same one who settled in Manilla. My grandfather was Charles William Veness of Essex, England. I am in Perth WA.

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Hi Richard,

My father's name wasn't Philip Edward. I don't know who that is actually.

My great grandmother was Jane Alice Veness, who married Charles Wesley Smart. I haven't met Robyn Bennett, but I would be interested to know where she fits in and get in contact with her.

Would you be able to email me so we can discuss this further - carolyn.littlefair[at symbol]gmail.com

Many thanks,
Carolyn

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Hi Carolyn,

If your father's name was Phillip Edward then I can help. My source for the Camden branch was Robyn Bennett - also descendent from Thomas and Mary Davis

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Hi Richard,

I am descended from the Camden branch of the Veness family and would love to share any further information you have on the tree. At this stage I have only been able to trace back to Thomas Veness and Mary Davis. Would appreciate anything further you have - happy to also share what I have.

Regards,
Carolyn

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Osmund, I can help, The 2nd Lucy was the daughter of George and Sarah Mary Feagan - George is the elder brother of my G Grandfather This is the Manilla branch. This Lucy married James William Worth. George was born in Deptford. The first Lucy is from Camden branch, it is most likely that they never met in real life. Both of these branches are well documented thus your data is correct.
The two branches are linked back to Issac and Mary Russell (Brightling).

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Richard, you may be my salvation.I also use Reunion for Mac, and I’m stuck on this one:
I have Lucy Veness, Camden, NSW 1859-1914 m. Arthur Burton Hawkey 1858-1935; her parents John Veness 1808-1879 b. Battle, ship “Florist” to Sydney 1839 w/wifte Ann Brett 1817-1895. I thought I had John’s origins right with father Thomas Veness b.1781 in Battle, M. Mary Davis 1782, Battle. So far, so good.
But now I have seen an Australian site with the same Lucy, same husband, all the right children, but with an entirely different lineage: George Veness and Sarah Fegan?

One of these is wrong. You say you have a good grip on the Australian side?

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I have the database on Reunion - I can export as web pages. Would be interested in comparing my information on the early history - I am confident of the Australian entries, but would like verification for the England data as has been collected from a number of sources over many years.

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Hi Caroline
At the moment my freind has no database he's only just toying with the idea of family history as a hobby as he's just retired. We were discusing it over a drink one evening as I've been involved with mine on and off for about twenty year's, this is when he mentioned his wife's surname was Veness. I will ask next time I see them her parents name's and any relations she might remember and the address were she was born and lived until she moved to Northfield.
Get back to you soon
Regardss John

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Can you share your database? Really interested in finding more about them.

Caroline

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Hi Roseleen,
I have a friend who's just got interested in family history and his wife's surname is Veness and she came from the Bradford St Digbeth area of the city. Is there any way he could view your tree to see if there are any relations.
Regards John T Smith (Birmingham)

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I have a lot of information on the Veness's from 1572 from around Battle, Hastings etc. My maiden name is Veness and I am interested in any other info.

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I have a long list of Veness family from Battle and Deptford if you are still interested.

I am compiling a database of the Veness clan that started from Battle (1600's) earliest date

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Hello Caroline

Thank you very much for your help with this. I am going to pay them a visit in the next couple of weeks!
All the best
Jeff

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Hello Jeff

I suggest you head for the East Sussex County Records Office (ESRO)at Lewes where the parish records are held.
There isn't any kind of archive at Battle as far as I'm aware although there is a museum, and the Battle Historical Society has a small collection of books.
ESRO is the place to go, and the staff are very helpful there.
Kind regards
Caroline

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Hello Caroline

I hope you don't mind me joining in this discussion, but I am researching the same branch of the Veness family as Roseleen! I am carrying out the research on behalf of my wife.

In a nutshell, I recently moved to St Leonards, East Sussex, and have been researching the Birmingham line of Veness's for a while -and was intrigued to discover that the family originated just up the road from where we now live!

I am after advice on where to find out more about the Veness's of Battle and Brightling. I will be visiting Lewes soon to look at the county archives. However, does Battle itself have any kind of archive?

Best Wishes
Jeff

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Hello Roseleen

I have a marriage for Samuel Veness, bachelor, to Sarah Stonestreet, spinster, at Battle on 10 January 1781.
The only baptisms at Battle that I have for children of Samuel and Sarah Veness are:-
Thomas 18 May 1781; Ann 20 June 1800; Henry 22 May 1806.
I couldn't find a marriage in Sussex for Thomas Veness and Mary Grant but there was a marriage for a Richard Venes and Mary Grant (of Brightling) at Battle by licence on 21 June 1730.

I hope this is useful, and I'm happy to look further in my resources for Sussex if you can give parishes, approx dates etc.
Best wishes
Caroline

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Hiya Caroline, Sorry i didnt get back to you sooner, have been attending Hsps.I have a samuel venes, born 1753 Son of (Thomas and mary Grant) married a sarah about 1780 thay had thomas 1781? samuel 1786, lenni and Richard,But there were two richards (1810) (1807) Samuel 1786 Moved to worcs then Bham also in worcs there was a richard he was married to a deliah Spray in 1829 St Peters Chichester. Delia moved back to sussex When Richard died, sam and james may be brothers ? They were thew only two familys in Worcs, I hope you can help and thankyou for getting back to me Roseleen (Birmingham)

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Hello Roseleen

I have some baptisms, marriages, and burials for the surname VENESS at Battle parish church and in nearby parishes (e.g. Ashburnham). If you'd like me to check my records I'd be happy to do so. Can you give me more info on the Veness family you're interested in?

Kind regards
Caroline

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I have records stating that family called Veness were married and baptised in Battle, finding it difficult to locate churches in that area, if anyone could advise on both veness and churches it would be great, thanks Roseleen

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Could any residents of Battle, or anyone who has been to Battle recently please send me their views on the town as a matter of urgency.

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